Apr 9, 2021

Video Number 1 - Debunked

It kind of looks like the moon missions aren't the only thing that NASA has faked*.

MarsFaker: Se7en Minutes Of Propaganda. PART 1



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Claim number 1 involves a supposed anomaly with a missing logo on the Columbia tribute plaque. The pre-flight and surface pictures:




The "missing" JPL sticker is the cause for the noise being generated on the video. The sticker was either removed or fell off in a vacuum environment. A close up view of the area shows clear marks where the sticker was placed.

Clear Smudge where sticker was.




 Claim Number 2 involves a supposed discrepancy with contact during atmospheric entry. I cannot understand how he has failed to notice that in the live video, the narrator is talking about a live signal from ODYSSEY not PHOENIX!

Odyssey is the orbital satellite that relays data from during the landing. Whilst it has no direct radio feed, it still has a radar feed.


Claim Number 3 involves a supposed anomaly with a "missing" screw on the first transmission pictures. 

Image 1: https://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/phoenix/images/raw/RAC/RS005EFF896662759_11736MDM1.html


Image2:
https://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/phoenix/images/raw/RAC/RS005EFF896662868_11736MDM1.html



Firstly, that is NOT a screw. Pareidolia is the explanation for assuming this. However, when we zoom in to the two images taken at different angles :


Quite clearly when enlarged, the discrepancy is not as big as claimed. Parts of the "object" are clearly there on the second image from the isolated sections. So what is going on here?

Possibilities include simple atmospheric disturbance of the ground from a very gentle gust of wind. The "extra pixels" are just noise on the transmission. The robotic arm has simply dropped a few grains of surface dust back on that area - White points out it hasn't yet been deployed, but possibly the landing would have kicked up soil onto parts of the lander due to the way it touched down. It is clearly not a screw and White makes the absurd claim that "a stagehand" removed the screw between takes! No indentation from the screw or his finger and there are still parts of that area that are identical - it CANNOT have been disturbed by a human hand. 

The other salient point is that these are low resolution robotic arm images, that are meaningless. So why even bother including them without checking? There is no logic to this claim to begin with.


 Claim Number 4 This is the last claim on the video and probably the dumbest. Report 1 shows an image of the robotic arm imprint on the ground, prior to digging. Report 2, 3 days later says digging not yet begun. White idiotically suggests that the report 1 image shows digging when it is clearly just the arm resting on the surface!

Video 1 - HOGWASH.

The NASA Unmanned Mars Missions

 One of the benefits from retirement is free time. So  my latest project will be to put together a debunk of the idiotic and incessant posts made by Cosmored/Rocky/Scott/Fatfreddy - this time concerning the Mars missions as being faked.

Now obviously there are numerous and well documented pieces of evidence supporting every aspect of NASA's space exploration - so I shall be referring to this as we go. This involves countless people who have been involved with equipment design, testing, launch and control and the many involved in collecting the data ongoing. Either they are dumber than Cosmored (and that is REALLY saying something) or every single one of these people are acting in a way that is intended to get the job done. That is, a mission designed and tested to succeed. As these missions are taking thousands of images and returning gigabytes of data, ongoing, the number of people needing to be involved in this would need to be fairly significant for just one mission!

I shall be examining each section from the latest and new wall of spam, put out by this ridiculous spammer and shall post in advance his evasion and "debate" tactics.


1. For images or video: "Nothing that's fakable can be used as proof as it might be fake."

He will never apply this moronic circular logic to his own images and videos. He will never actually prove it is faked or offer the number of people involved in such.


2. For websites: "It's possible that your sites are genuine and it's possible that some public-relations agency created them to help fool the public. Something that may or may not be bogus can't be used as proof." Source.

or

"That's a disinfo site."

He will never apply this moronic circular logic to his own appallingly inept websites. He will never address any website that solidly refutes his claims. He never offers any proof that any website is "disinfo" or "public-relations".


3. For Expert Testimony: "Only a person with a high background in photography would be able to deal with it "

For "photography" insert anything. He is a layman on everything associated with space travel so uses this evasion tactic frequently. Basically if he doesn't understand it, it is ignored and of course the person providing the information must automatically be in on the moronic hoax.


4. For Rebuttal: "...so we already know what you posted is sophistry. "

or

"I can't say I'm one hundred percent sure he's a paid disinfo agent but his behavior fits the profile perfectly."

This enables him to completely ignore any response, which he routinely does anyway, but throws this in for effect. Needless to say, he will never offer anything to backup his ad hominem statement.


5. Miscellaneous: ".anyone who sees it will see that he's just a paid sophist."

This is probably the worst one of all. For this enormous diversionary statement, he gets to ignore every single thing written by an expert in almost every aspect of the Apollo Missions. He gets to ignore a concise website detailing debunks for almost all his total crap. He gets to ignore every post made where he always get his ass handed to him. The basis for this is his "credibility test".


6. Credibility Test: "This calls for a credibility test. XXXXXXX maintains that the Chinese spacewalk was real and not faked in a water tank. Do you agree with him?"

This is where the spammer uses one of his pre-determined idiotic conspiracies or erroneous claims as the yardstick for a credibility test. He is the arbitrator of its provenance therefore anyone who disagrees with it can now be referred to as "discredited" and all their rebuttal can be ignored.


7. When all else fails: "I think the rest are moot now that you`ve been discredited and there are a lot of clear anomalies that prove the footage ...."

So when he routinely gets his claim debunked, it is "moot" because of "all the others". It never occurs to him that all the other evidence has been debunked and was also "moot" when it was addressed. When pushed to provide a list of items to address, at all costs he will not do this because it can be seen where they have all been debunked.


8. Just deny everything: "I've never seen it debunked. I've seen people try to obfuscate it and then consider it to have been debunked." or "I can't see what you're referring to."

He's never seen ANYTHING debunked? An utterly ludicrous statement that he uses based on his own inept layman understanding. His ignorance apart, he seeks to pigeon hole every single debunk into responses that he says are diversion, because he says so. Or, he simply denies seeing something that is completely irrefutably obvious.


9. Idiotic Closes: "You'd get laughed out of the debating hall ..."

or

"you're about as impressive as the Black Knight in this video"

The sheer irony of this is always lost on him. If ever there was somebody who behaved like the Black Knight - as his arm gets chopped off it's a "moot point" it would be this serial forum spammer. There is not a debating environment on this planet where this person would show up to. He knows more than anyone that he would get the floor wiped with his drivel.


10. Divert/Obfuscate/Re-spam: This is where he avoids the item completely and gish-gallops away with repeated spam. Almost certainly he will keep avoiding the original claim.


11. Never mind that - look over here:   "Anyway, there's a ton of proof that the missions were faked and zero proof that they were real."

When this hopeless individual has exhausted his inept repertoire of responses comes his most used spam. He resorts to spamming his wall of crap and ignoring the main issue! 

What a sad, sad liar this person is. They have been humiliated completely on dozens of subjects, thousands of times on Apollo, yet they spew this cut and paste hogwash almost every time.


12. Credibility Referbacks "You've already said some pretty lame things so your judgement is obviously flawed."

or

"....said the Man who tried to obfuscate the clear evidence of the Chinese Spacewalk"

When this hopeless individual has no answers he often resorts to just one liners concerning previous bullshit "Credibility Tests". 


13. Moronic Translations"Translation: The proof that the Chinese spacewalk is so clear that I'll just look silly if I try to obfuscate it so I'd better avoid addressing it."

 This is the ridiculous post where he interprets his crazy viewpoint on something regardless of how many times it has already been addressed. It usually has some bearing on his equally moronic "Credibility Tests". 


This person has been doing all of the above across 100's of forums for coming up to 20 years. He cuts and pastes duplicate posts, responses, key phrases and dismissal videos. He determines any one or more of the above and posts them out, then slams a huge post with repeated and debunked bullshit. There is simply no level of response that can get through to somebody who has terminal Dunning and Kruger syndrome.